' and Ellie Costello welcomed commentator Clare Muldoon and former MP Norman Baker to discuss s brutal comments about Prime Minister 's Net Zero plans. This comes after "isn't working" and warned that any strategy that limits fossil fuels in the short term was "doomed to fail".
Addressing Starmer's green plan, Norman stated: "The green agenda, the green investment went up 10% last year and GDP only went up 1%, so its a green area which are actually producing the jobs and producing the economy, so I don't understand why there's this negativity about it." "Because it's very expensive, that's why Norman and people can't actually afford it,"Clare fired back, adding: "You talk about the green agenda moving up 10% and that's because there's green tariffs practically on everything we buy now, it's horrific."
Clare continued: "I am no Tony Blair fan, to be honest with you, but as he quite rightly said, anyone who criticises the green agenda, it's become so politicised, they're named 'nuts', they're named 'climate deniers', it's not healthy at all.
"It's a bit like saying, anyone who criticises anything to do with immigration and is pro-Reform is racist or far-right."
Norman hit back: "Well, I haven't called anyone nuts, as a matter of fact, for their views on net zero.
"What I will say, however, is if you look at the energy mix in this country, we have been highly dependent on imports from dodgy countries like Russia for our gas and oil. If we can get our own energy mix basically in this country working properly, including renewables ... that's a more secure energy future. "
Highlighting the major , Clare interrupted: "Secure? Are you not aware of what happened in Spain and Portugal?"
Norman responded: "That's nothing to do with renewables." Looking at a newspaper, he added: "There's a piece in the I today that says 'the reasons for this have not yet been decided and not yet been found out' or that it may be a freak weather event.
"So, it's quite wrong to blame it on renewables, which is what I heard earlier on," the former MP concluded.
, Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said that the government's priorities were twofold: restoring Spain's electrical system and finding the causes of the blackout so that a similar event "never takes place again."
While Spain's meteorological agency, AEMET, said that it had not detected any "unusual meteorological or atmospheric phenomena."
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